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JohnnyZ

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Type of smoke generator?
« on: November 22, 2017, 05:08:16 pm »
How can I tell if my Lionel train has a pellet or a fluid type smoke generator? I have a 1954 2018 I just took it apart and the smoke generator has a lot of white residue in it. So what kind of smoke generator would it be and is there a way to clean it out I looked on the forearms and a lot of guys have different ways of doing it but I wanted to ask and see if anybody here has a tried-and-true tested way of cleaning them out thanks for any information you can give me have a Happy Thanksgiving!

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Re: Type of smoke generator?
« Reply #1 on: November 22, 2017, 05:30:31 pm »
The 2018 uses a pellet type smoke unit. The white residue you see is the remnants of previous pellets.

If the smoke unit is not too clogged, power up the engine and lock it in neutral. Turn the power all the way up, and the residual smoke pellet material will start to melt into the smoke element. Use a toothpick to gently scrape any material that may be in the stack into the element.

For a heavily clogged smoke unit, the locomotive shell will have to be taken off, and the smoke unit disassembled. Then any excess pellet material can be gently cleaned out of the smoke unit and off the heater element.

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Re: Type of smoke generator?
« Reply #2 on: November 22, 2017, 06:44:05 pm »
A toothpick is a great tool, but you must be careful when Going down into the smoke chamber. The smoke generator is inside that chamber and could potentially break the heating element with the point of the toothpick. Try using as well a q tip swab a little Vaseline petroleum jelly to clean off some of the white residue left behind from the used up smoke pellets around the smoke stack. Itís gentle and it work pretty good. But like the previous response you received, try burning off some of the old smoke pellet residue
by putting your 2018 Steam Locomotive in neutral, turn off the E-unit to silence the hum, and turn the power up. That should burn off any remaining smoke pellets left behind. At such time, it would be a good way to determine if the your locomotive if puffing smoke correctly. If so Great. If not, then you will have to check and see if the smoke lever is moving freely. If not, then then you will need to remove the shell, and see what might be either binding up, and if the smoke piston is moving up and down in its chamber. Also, it would be a good time to check and see if the smoke units air hole underneath it is unabstructed from any smoke pellet residue. You can clean that tiny hole with a toothpick without worry, then clean the smoke piston, the chamber it goes into, and make sure the smoke lever moves freely with the cross head. Thereís a felt smoke stack gasket in between the smoke unit and the shell. Make sure thatís lined up correctly over the smoke stack as well when putting it back together. You donít want to block the smoke when the train is running. The 2018 was originally built starting in 1956 - 1958, and again in 1960 and 1961. Itís an exact copy of the 2037 locomotive as well as some other locomotives. The only difference is that it lacks magnatraction, but itís a great runner no matter what. Good luck and happy railroading.

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Re: Type of smoke generator?
« Reply #3 on: November 23, 2017, 07:55:58 am »
Thanks for the info I do appreciate it. It looks like this 2018 is going to be quite a rebuild I put it on track and it started the home and tried to move forward and back but I could tell that they e unit lever is very loose. I already took the chassis off and I'm looking inside of it and the wiring is actually very old so I'm assuming it's probably the original wiring. I've seen where guy say to replace it, but I'm thinking if I can unsolder the connections and not break the wires I would just reuse the original wiring seeing how it's already kind of formed itself to the layout of that engine. I'll keep you all posted with pictures of the rebuild of the 2018 and if you see anything that you recommend that I should do please feel free to comment thank you very much.

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Re: Type of smoke generator?
« Reply #4 on: November 23, 2017, 11:10:17 am »
If the insulation of the original wire is not exposed or brittle, then yes, resoldering can be a good thing. Old solder does sometimes break away or becomes lose and your electrical connection is impaired. And since you have it apart, it would be a great time to give it a really good cleaning and oiling. Check the gears for any hair, fur, or lose material and remove with pointy tweezers. Lubricate the gears with a light grease that you can purchase at your local hobby retailer, or online through eBay. Lionel sells a lubrication kit with grease, oil, and track clean. That might be your best bet to purchase. When youíre all done, your locomotive should operate like brand new when it first came off the assembly line. Please advise how your project turns out. It will be a fun thing to do, and self gratifying. Happy Thanksgiving!!

 

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