Thank-you Larry for all the info you have given me.

The two price guides that i have access to are

1) Greenberg's pocket price guide
2) Collector's guide to prewar lionel trains by david doyle

I understand that these are guides. The prices in them are for high grades of items.
I use them as a starting point and discount from there

What I am confused about is why this car is not listed in Greenberg's?

what other online places can i look for lionel items?

again thank-you for finding the the info for this car

phil