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Beginners Q & A / Re: Needing your knowledge
« on: January 15, 2018, 11:40:19 am »
Hey Dave, just to let you know, the Singer sewing machine oil I use is synthetic. No whales died for my trains!
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Beginners Q & A / Re: Needing your knowledge« on: January 15, 2018, 11:40:19 am »
Hey Dave, just to let you know, the Singer sewing machine oil I use is synthetic. No whales died for my trains!
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Beginners Q & A / Re: Needing your knowledge« on: January 14, 2018, 03:15:52 pm »
My 671 Turbine and GG1 work fine on 027 track in case you want to run a tighter circle (ie: smaller layout). That being said, I did convert over to the Lionel Fastrack due to the convenience that track offers. On old trains I find I always try to clean as much of the old oils and grease away as possible first, then re-lubricate using Lionel's recommendations as a "suggestion" as there are better lubricants out there today (you can do online searches and find most of the instructions for the trains you own, or similar one, which will give you maintenance information. In regard to the 671 you will need to take off the shell. Back in the day, that was just part and parcel of owning a train, being a little mechanical minded, so many today are not). DO NOT use 3 in 1. No no. I use sewing machine oil for all the locations Lionel says to use oil on and a molly based lubricant where they say to use grease. I've brought back to life some non-running engines from the 20's and 30's this way without anything more then a good cleaning and oiling. Of course on these real old ones once you get it running you find you need to fix other issues like wiring where the insulation has dried up and come off. I replace the insulation with shrink wrap tubing. Saves the original wiring and I only need to unhook one end of the wire to slide the tubing on helping to keep everything straight.
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Beginners Q & A / Re: Post War vs Modern Locos Power Needs?« on: January 14, 2018, 03:05:04 pm »
Newer locomotives typically have modern can motors in them that use much less power, thus using the voltage you are used to for your postwar will cause them to rocket off the track, kinda like a slot car! I have the same issue with my prewar vs postwar as the technology of the engines made in the 20's vs the late 40's mid 50's also resulted in a reduced need for power. You get used to it after a while.
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Lionel Maintenance & Repair / Re: Blue Comet« on: January 01, 2018, 09:08:22 pm »
In case anyone else buys one and wants to know, no, the Blue Comet does not come with a whistle on ts sound board. Research found when they first tried the sound of steam they did have a whistle on their earlier attempts with it but they would fail often so they discontinued the whistle portion of the sound board. Do what I did, buy another baggage car and add the guts from a whistle tender to it. Having the spare car keeps the value of the set intact. Sounds good too.
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Lionel Maintenance & Repair / Rear pickup roller gets hot on my prewar 259« on: December 31, 2017, 03:47:16 pm »
I restored a prewar 259. Kept all the wire but put shrink wrap on it to replace the junk insulation that was there. tore it down and and cleaned everything, armature face, brushes, fixed a bushing (anyone know what material Lionel used and if you can buy anything like it as I had to use a different material. It worksgreat but would like the look of the original stuff if possible). Two roller pickups on this engine have just one lead coming off of them. When running I can see light sparking coming off the rear roller. Once it has run a while it gets hot to the touch, but not the front one. I've checked clearance and it does not hit anything I can see and if I adjust it so it is not touching the third rail the train tends to cycle the e-unit easily to neutral on some spots on my track (same ones over and over-need to address that too) that it doesn't do with both pickups on the rail. It is not shorting the transformer and the engine runs fine, it is just that one roller. Anyone experience this before? Any ideas? Thanks.
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Lionel Maintenance & Repair / Re: Fastrack Unloading track problem« on: December 31, 2017, 03:36:52 pm »
Well, I just took this track out. After careful observation I noticed each time a train ran over it the circuit breaker light on my TW would flicker on and off and on my shorter engines where I had the e-unit set to work it would stop the train. I suspect I have a defective track. Will try trouble shooting it later. A short may explain why the milk cars work fine when run straight off the TW but not off the track. Now for the next question and lets see if I get any replies on it.
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Lionel Maintenance & Repair / Fastrack Unloading track problem« on: December 25, 2017, 11:39:57 am »
I converted over to Fastrack including the accessory track for uncoupling and unloading. Unloading works well enough, tipping the car, at least when empty. But the milk cars don't work. I have 3 and all worked on the old style track. Here they are lethargic to the point of not hardly moving. At first I thought it may have been the mechanism, but when all 3 showed the same symptoms I decided to test them off the transformer where all three worked just fine, nice and crisp. It's like there's a dramatic voltage drop on the accessory track yet I don't understand why as there is no circuit board yet when I was hooked to the transformer and went with very low voltage I simulated the effect. All contacts on the controller are bright and shinny, it is a new piece. Anyone else run into this? Perhaps re-wiring it to run off transformer voltage (which I thought it was doing off the track now, or am I wrong). Thanks for any insight. John.
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Lionel Maintenance & Repair / Re: Mid 70's Blue Comet passenger car maitance/modification question« on: December 15, 2017, 03:28:13 pm »
Well, in case anyone has these cars or ones like them, the windows are part of the roof. They have little wedges molded in, 2 per side, one front, one rear, that lock into a window frame. All you have to do is gently push those in on both sides (start on one end, then go to the other) and gently lift off the roof. Near impossible to figure out. BUT-i did fit an old postwar whistle inside that fits. Bought another car like it to have a non molested one to go with the set but it does now have a whistle with the ever so hi tech sound of steam.
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Lionel Maintenance & Repair / Re: 2035 issue« on: December 14, 2017, 04:15:43 pm »
That still does not answer why, at times, when I use my whistle function, the e unit will cycle too. There is no specific piece of track it happens on, it just happens here or there randomly. Any idea what causes the e unit to cycle then? Yes, the whistle does function when this happens.
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Lionel Maintenance & Repair / Re: 2035 issue« on: December 14, 2017, 11:27:05 am »
Larry, locking the e-unit is not a "fix" for this problem as the e-unit was/is a design function for these trains. If there was an "interruption of power" it would not elect what vintage the engine was to interrupt yet we both have this issue with the vintage engines, not, in my case, with the more modern engines even thought they have the same pickups as the older version. Yes, I bandage the problem by doing what you suggest but again, it is a bandage that does not allow use of the full features the engine offers. I've had this happen when using my whistle at times too on these older engines. It almost seems like something happens to the current at some of these track junctions or use of electrical functions which fakes the early (or perhaps more worn) e unit into thinking there was a power interruption.
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Lionel Maintenance & Repair / Re: 2035 issue« on: December 13, 2017, 04:43:51 pm »
Are both rollers making contact at all times? Perhaps at the switch they are both for a short period off contact that is only manifesting itself as an issue at slower speeds. If your lucky, that will be your problem. My issue is with my Fast Track track that allows the unhooking and such. On my vintage engines I get the same problem you have, engine goes over it and it switches the e unit to neutral and I know it is making contact. So yours could be too. Newer engines from the late 70's don't have that issue. So there could be some kind of issue with the e units thinking they are having the voltage shut off when they are not on these older units. Don't understand how it can happen but you and I seem to have a similar problem.
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Lionel Maintenance & Repair / Re: Waking sleeping giants« on: December 13, 2017, 09:15:47 am »
I had the same issue with the tenders, fine when they had all the juice but not with an engine. Ultimately I replaced the rectifier disc with a diode and now they work fine while with the engine. Don't understand how a copper disc wears out, but they do over time. Just s thought.
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Lionel Maintenance & Repair / Mid 70's Blue Comet passenger car maitance/modification question« on: December 12, 2017, 03:38:41 pm »
I have basically the whole Blue Comet train with that oh so 70's campy sound of steam. Still works too. Not as bad as I thought it would be since it is rather mellow BUT since Lionel had issues with the electronic version of the whistle they had done away with it but the time this engine was made. I purchased a old tender whistle that works like a champ but can't seem to figure out how to remove the roof. Since these cars are lit with 2 bulbs each, they would eventually need to be replaced but I can't find anything on line showing how. Has anyone here removed the roof on one of these without damaging the car? If so, could you explain how you did it? Thanks !
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Lionel Maintenance & Repair / Problem with my ZW« on: November 29, 2017, 01:38:20 pm »
My ZW transformer has an issue, 2 if you count the fact that it is on each side. The whistle doesn't work. In fact, it acts the same as the direction function. I've already rundown the wiring and confirmed all is connected and where it should be. I cleaned the contacts, I added a solid state circuit breaker. Everything else works like it should. I'm at a loss. Any ideas?
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Lionel Maintenance & Repair / Re: Lionel Trainsounds Whistle Tender Wiring Question« on: November 23, 2017, 10:45:54 am »
I have a vintage 1978 Blue Comet with sounds of steam where the board is in the tender too. It has a line coming out of the tender that hooks up to the engine. I can't vouch for that being what you have but the concept looks similar. Just my 2 cents worth.
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